“Unfriended” By The Right

Yes, I’m on Facebook. Yes, I post there fairly regularly. Yes, I have some friends. Apparently, I have one less than I had a week ago.

This individual and I have know each other for a long time, 30 years. But as happens, people move, people change. So it’s really no surprise that our life paths have led us to different interpretations and political views. Debate is healthy.

Unless of course, one side of that debate is being informed by the far right.

The email string that apparently triggered my banishing from this person’s friend list started with a discussion about the piece on Rachel Maddow’s show regarding Shirley Sherrod. I had posted about it, sharing it with the folks on FB. I soon got a message:

Leo How is the NBPP story not about racism, hear one of the perpetrators run his mouth off about hating white people? Shirley Sherrod told a story of “redemption” while still saying things like refer him to one of his “kind” , while the NAACP crowd laughed at the story prior to her speaking of any elements of redemption.

Of course, he missed the point, that being that there is now this disguised racism, one which many appear to be blind to. I responded:

These stories all pushed a narrative of “look at the racist black people”. Where is the “expose” of Stormfront – the white supremacist group that is backing Tea Party candidates?

The Sherrod story was a non-story completely fabricated by Breitbart and pushed by Fox. He had the video for three weeks, but amazingly chose the day that Wall St. reform was being passed to release it? Why? It wasn’t to verify the story – he made it up. He intentionally edited the video to make it look the opposite of what it is.

The point of the piece is that there is a concerted effort to try to scare people into believing that there is some nefarious plan afoot, that all blacks hate all whites, and there is a need to be scared. And to deflect criticism of obvious racism by whites in the same breath. It is a concerted effort by individuals, and by a media organization that calls themselves “news”, but is no more than a propaganda machine – a motive that has been supported and promoted by its owner and execs.

FYI – I haven’t edited or changed a single word of this exchange. You see it as it appeared.

Apparently, my attempt to clarify wasn’t good enough.

I think that is the point of the article, but, the ACORN story had to do with corruption and nothing with race. The Sherrod story is difficult as she ostensibly tells a story of redemtption while using racist language. the NBPP is obvious racism. Who would conclude all black people are racist? That is just plain stupid, as stupid as all white people are racist, yet Mark Williams is a racist asshole. The article is very misleading and frankly the majority of racists in this country are on the left not the right. I do not think the Wall Street “reform” had any thing to do with it, but, what a travesty of a bill, the same duo of idiots who helped create the crisis “fixing” it.

As you can see, the perception of this individual has a distinct ring to it. The discredited – and fabricated – ACORN story, the completely overblown National Black Panther Party story, the attempt to still paint Shirley Sherrod as a racist. Also, the perception of the left being far more racist. And a swipe at the Wall St. reform bill to boot.

Then, before I had even finished reading that message, I got this one:

Wait unless you mean black people cannot be racist? Which ironically is a racist view point, and naive.

And there it is – the “reverse racism” claim. I didn’t say, or imply, that there are no black racists. My suggestion, that there are people who think all blacks are racist, was dismissed as ‘stupid’ – even though it’s a fact. The blindness to the racism comes right out. No one could possibly think like that, right?

So instead, it must be me, the middle aged white guy, who is racist because I believe there are whites who think all blacks are racist. Still following me? I’m racist because I think some whites are racist.

But, I tried to be restrained:

ACORN? Oh the “expose” that was “broken” by – wait for it – Breitbart? Using edited video (and badly at that) from Republican kids “undercover” that ended up being NOT what they claimed? That ACORN story?

Isn’t it curious to you that Breitbart seems to keep coming up with stories that involve black people doing something wrong, that somehow always have video, that always seem to have been edited specifically to fit his narrative, that end up being false? And isn’t it curious to you that Fox continues to go back to the guy and push his stories?

Who would conclude all black people are racist? Open your eyes. They’re all around you. But again, it’s the implication that they are. The seed of that thought, the way the stories are shaped to push that narrative, by a news source that far too many trust.

Your distrust of the left is all too apparent, but why is it that to find a story of “racism”, guys like Breitbart have to dig for a 2-year-old video of a mid-level person in the USDA, but folks on the right pop up like weeds – and proudly so? They are unrepentant, and growing in number. Except now, they use the “reverse racism” model – they’re just speaking out against those black racists, dontcha know…

You know I didn’t say anything about blacks being incapable of racism. And insulting that you would insinuate it.

Prove your statements. Show that “the majority of racists” are on the left. You can’t, but go ahead and try. Racists come from all stripes, but they tend to congregate in the extremes. And they have been congregating on the right for a long time. They’re proud of it.

Which again, goes to the point of the story. The knee-jerk reaction to the Sherrod story came because the left denounces racism, and didn’t want to appear soft on the issue. They stupidly jumped at Breitbart’s bait and didn’t look into it. They should have considered the source before passing judgment. The right then made the story about the admin jumping on Sherrod, and eliminated the discussion of Breitbart’s fabrication.

And that, dear reader, is the last I heard from this individual. After not seeing any of his right-wing updates for a few days, I checked my friend list. Lo and behold, he’s gone.

But I don’t feel bad about it. If anything, I feel sorry for him.

I don’t know why he got to the point of fear that he feels. To him, government is “Big Brother”, always trying to take away what’s his. Business is to be trusted before government. The states should be left to their own devices.Buy gold now – the worldwide crash is coming! Be sure to stockpile those canned goods for the collapse of society under the pressure of socialism.

The list goes on. The fear is immense. During one conversation, he actually tried to equate the persecution of blacks to conservative Christians, saying he knew what that discrimination was because he gets it all the time as a conservative Christian. He was trying to make the claim that he is persecuted as a conservative Christian.

This is what the right has been working on for at least a generation. To get their base so fearful of everything, that they MUST follow the right’s lead to restore the country to its moral foundation.

It’s calculated and cold. It plays on one fear, and builds on it. It preys on folks who are scared for their livelihood, for their belief system. It gives them a boogeyman to be afraid of, to blame their problems on. It uses religion, money, race – anything it can to create a fear. Whether it’s the illegal immigrant crossing the border to take their jobs, or the Muslim believer that doesn’t share their faith, they are given something to fear.

And it is repeated, over and over and over again, until the lies are taken as gospel.

It is propagated by Fox News, who push the narrative. And by their reticence to call out Fox, the other media outlets are complicit in helping the narrative along. Instead of pushing back and exposing the facts, they maintain a false sense of “balance”, airing two sides of a story, even if one is pure fantasy.

The civil discourse, the informed debate, is gone. The email exchange above is an example. When called about the falsehoods, there is no back-up, just and end to discussion. Facing the facts forces an examination of the belief systems that support the fear. And that is even scarier to the folks who are already afraid. If they see the facts, it means their belief system is flawed. That is more than they can handle.

So the conversation is cut-off.

As I said before. I’m not upset. I am sad. Maybe one day, he’ll realize he’s being played. I can hope.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1124814168 Lynn Adams

    I think it is sad that people, especially supposed friends, cannot agree to disagree. There is no point in losing friends over political issues, it changes nothing. I also think it is sad that you published what was an exchange between friends and to gain what?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1124814168 Lynn Adams

    I think it is sad that people, especially supposed friends, cannot agree to disagree. There is no point in losing friends over political issues, it changes nothing. I also think it is sad that you published what was an exchange between friends and to gain what?

  • http://www.facebook.com/zoneone Todd Schacherl

    I see this almost on a daily basis. It realy got me thinking today about how the right claims that the left works from emotion and it is apparent that is what the right does. I had someone tell me there is a big difference between a family member being murdered by a US citizen versus one being murdered by an illegal alien and it was “much worse” when one is murdered by an illegal alien. She couldn’t explain it because it was purely an emotional repsonse driven by her fear of illegal aliens.

  • http://www.facebook.com/zoneone Todd Schacherl

    I see this almost on a daily basis. It realy got me thinking today about how the right claims that the left works from emotion and it is apparent that is what the right does. I had someone tell me there is a big difference between a family member being murdered by a US citizen versus one being murdered by an illegal alien and it was “much worse” when one is murdered by an illegal alien. She couldn’t explain it because it was purely an emotional repsonse driven by her fear of illegal aliens.

  • http://www.facebook.com/leo.soderman Leo Soderman

    Karen – I won’t out anyone. It’s not the point. Because this individual has gone a different path. At some point, the ability for people to disagree and discuss disappeared. That saddens me.

    Lynn – the reason for posting it is farther down in the post. It’s not about this individual. As I say in the post, I feel sad that this individual has gotten to this place. But it’s a bigger problem than this person. This individual is following a path and pattern that is all too familiar nowadays. I purposely made sure there was nothing that specifically identified this individual, and since there are dozens of folks on here who’ve know me for that long, from different stages of my life, there might be guesses, but I won’t out them. The post is about the fear mongering, the manipulation designed to get people riled up, beyond reason.

    Todd – If I have a fear, it’s that these gut reactions, these appeals to fear and the most base of emotions will be what runs this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/leo.soderman Leo Soderman

    Karen – I won’t out anyone. It’s not the point. Because this individual has gone a different path. At some point, the ability for people to disagree and discuss disappeared. That saddens me.

    Lynn – the reason for posting it is farther down in the post. It’s not about this individual. As I say in the post, I feel sad that this individual has gotten to this place. But it’s a bigger problem than this person. This individual is following a path and pattern that is all too familiar nowadays. I purposely made sure there was nothing that specifically identified this individual, and since there are dozens of folks on here who’ve know me for that long, from different stages of my life, there might be guesses, but I won’t out them. The post is about the fear mongering, the manipulation designed to get people riled up, beyond reason.

    Todd – If I have a fear, it’s that these gut reactions, these appeals to fear and the most base of emotions will be what runs this country.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1842972981 Karen Roady-Bohls

    Wasn’t looking to have you “out anyone”…I have had to stop reading/responding to most of his posts because agreeing to disagree seems to be out of the question. Just wondering…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1842972981 Karen Roady-Bohls

    Wasn’t looking to have you “out anyone”…I have had to stop reading/responding to most of his posts because agreeing to disagree seems to be out of the question. Just wondering…

  • http://www.facebook.com/leo.soderman Leo Soderman

    That’s the problem I am trying to illustrate with the post. There are, unfortunately, a whole lot of folks who no longer can have civil discourse.

    Look, I like to debate. But I try to keep it civil. For a lot of folks, that doesn’t seem to be an option, especially if you ask them to back up what they say. Case in point, last night I was in discussion with someone who started off by insulting me. He disagrees with me, so therefore I must be an idiot, or any of three or four different derogatory terms he used.

    It’s a problem because instead of discussion, of debate, of looking for solutions to the problems we face, everything seems to come down to name-calling and ugly rhetoric and real discussion. We won’t get anywhere if we can’t discuss the important points.

  • http://www.facebook.com/leo.soderman Leo Soderman

    That’s the problem I am trying to illustrate with the post. There are, unfortunately, a whole lot of folks who no longer can have civil discourse.

    Look, I like to debate. But I try to keep it civil. For a lot of folks, that doesn’t seem to be an option, especially if you ask them to back up what they say. Case in point, last night I was in discussion with someone who started off by insulting me. He disagrees with me, so therefore I must be an idiot, or any of three or four different derogatory terms he used.

    It’s a problem because instead of discussion, of debate, of looking for solutions to the problems we face, everything seems to come down to name-calling and ugly rhetoric and real discussion. We won’t get anywhere if we can’t discuss the important points.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1124814168 Lynn Adams

    I read the post before I responded and see your reasoning for your post in it but I think you can still share your opinion of the situation without publishing personal emails. If we cannot exchange information with our “friends” safely and in confidence as adults then we close the doors of communication. We should be able to trust our friends with our personal thoughts without fear of public humiliation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1124814168 Lynn Adams

    I read the post before I responded and see your reasoning for your post in it but I think you can still share your opinion of the situation without publishing personal emails. If we cannot exchange information with our “friends” safely and in confidence as adults then we close the doors of communication. We should be able to trust our friends with our personal thoughts without fear of public humiliation.

  • James W Ash

    this is exactly why i deleted my facebook account and yelp about 6 months ago. i did not care to know how many people i worked with or went to school with were right wing douchebags. it was heartbreaking!

  • http://www.whatsthequestion.org lsoderman

    See, I don't see this individual as a “douchebag”. I think most people are well-meaning, and have every right to believe what they believe. And I have the right to believe what I believe. We even have a right to discuss it.

    The problem comes when the discussion crosses from debate to insult.

    I think a great quote is “question the judgment, not the motive”. I don't doubt that folks like this individual want what it is best for the country. I do disagree with them on what that is. Unfortunately, to them, my disagreement means I don't want what's best, that I look for the downfall of the country, or some other distortion.

    And that['s where the debate ends.

  • Dags

    I, personally, dislike political debates because I think everyone is FOS. I don't watch Fox news because I hate to hear how evil the left is and how wonderful the right is and I don't like CNN because I hate to hear out great the left is and how dumb the right is. That being said, I am guilty of tuning in to see what new procedure Shepard Smith has had done to tighten his face and I also flip the channel over to CNN at night to fall asleep to the ever-so-hot Coop on tv. If others want to discuss politics -it's a free country so i say “have at it!” Just don't shove it down my throat every time I log on to my machine. (Unless of course you attach a photo of a shirtless Anderson Cooper on the post).

  • http://www.whatsthequestion.org lsoderman

    Coop without a shirt? I fear he'd be a scary, pasty looking thing…

    I'll try to include more beefcake in my future commentary…

  • http://www.facebook.com/leo.soderman Leo Soderman

    Lynn – I certainly understand your feelings. I have two thoughts on that.

    First, I made sure there were no identifying elements to the email. There is no intent to publicly humilate. But the context of what was said is important. It is, in fact, the point of the post. Some of the comments that I posted had been posted publicly in other communications, but to point to those communications *would* have indetified the individual, whoch again, was not my intent.

    My second thought is that this individual had already made the choice *not* to be a friend. They, in fact, cut off the communication. Rather than respond to me, they simply ended *all* communication. I had to go back and check my “friends” list to find this person had removed me from theirs. So, the exchange of information had already been closed off.

    Again, I understand where you are coming from, and appreciate the feedback.

  • Dave Wright

    Leo: I came by your blog to see how you were doing, and to my surprise found you had used our exchange as a posting. You also seem to be promoting it on Twitter. Anyone who I would not want you trumpeting this too would know exactly who it was, so nice try sounding as though you were protecting me.

    What hurts more is I tried to ask you to prepare as I think both parties have helped put our country in a precarious position, and I loved you like a brother. So you make fun of my warning?

    We have always fought and had our blow ups, but, using our fight as some liberal morally superior teaching moment seems to be beyond the pale. Also, do not try to sound compassionate/superior and feel sorry for me being lost, I believe in Jesus, Family, and the Constitution who is lost?

    Dude I thought you were way above this.

  • http://www.whatsthequestion.org lsoderman

    I honestly considered not responding. It has been nearly two months. But I also believe that if you took the time – albeit way down the line – to comment, you deserve a response to know your comment was read.

    My first reaction to you is that I didn't cut off communication. That was your choice. You had done it previously by simply choosing not to respond to something. But in this case, you took the extra measure of insuring there *could* not be a response from me.

    I didn't make fun of your warning. I lament that there is an industry working to promote fear of everything that has taken in so many individuals. Individuals that are intelligent, and caring, but blinded by a machine that churns out hatred disguised as patriotism, fear disguised as preparation, bigotry disguised as security. I understand it came from a place of care on your part. But it's comes from information driven by an industry looking to profit from your fear.

    My post is not a “liberal morally superior teaching moment”. It is my opinion. I was equated to being either naive or a racist. And when I responded to that, I was denied any further communication. I did not make that choice, it was made for me. I never said you were “lost” – there's no such thing. I believe in family. And I believe in the Constitution. All of it, not just the convenient parts or the easy to support parts.

    I also believe that rational discussion, without resort to insult or smear, is still the way we move forward. That is not what happened in this case. It was not the first time you insulted me by questioning my patriotism, support for the military, my beliefs or lack thereof, or in this case, my views on race. In fact, in public forums, you have admitted to and delighted in “getting me going” just for fun. I never received any apology for those insults when I stated that I found them to be insulting. And yet, I did not insult back. Nor is this post intended as an insult. If you have felt insulted, then I do apologize that I have done something that has given you insult.

    But I do not apologize for my sincere wish that you would no longer live in fear, nor my earnest desire that you see that those who lead and fund the so-called “movements” to which you have stated allegiance do so for no other reason than their own benefit, and that they have no interest in what is best for you or anyone else. I do not apologize for wanting to be able to have earnest, if difficult, discussions about important matters without degradation into name-calling or insult.

  • Davy

    You are right that I have been less than civil, and for that I am sorry. I only cut the FB connection, as I did not think it was productive for either of us. I know you are part of the Technorati, but, friendships existed for millennia prior to social networking. Also, far from final as we have often unintentionally taken breaks that were years long. How could I have ensured that there could be no response as telephones and email still do exist. In terms of being prepared it just makes sense, it does not have to be an economic crisis, what about job loss, natural disaster, etc? Is it not reasonable to have some food set aside? I mean even the government, who are not often terribly logical, have ready.gov and encourage folks to be ready in case of a Katrina, Quake, etc.

    Hasta